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Prospects and Suspects (An Unscientific Study)

by Paul Semendinger

June 1, 2022

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Yesterday, in the Tuesday Discussion, I suggested that the Yankees should trade any or all of their top prospects for Juan Soto. I make this claim because most prospects just don't pan out. I think there is a better likelihood that Juan Soto has more All-Star games and a higher lifetime WAR than the Top 5 Yankees prospects combined over their careers.


Sometimes, for fun, I look at old baseball guides and books. Over the weekend, I was flipping through the 1990 edition of The Complete Handbook of Baseball. In the report for each team, they listed that team's top prospect. Sometimes, they listed two.


This isn't a scientific study. For example, I don't know how that yearly guide chose the top prospects. I also don't know if they did a better job in previous or subsequent years, but here are the top prospects throughout MLB as listed in that book. Looking back in retrospect, how many of these players ended up as good at Juan Soto is even today (at just 23-years-old). How many had a career as valuable as Juan Soto's to date?

  • Orioles - Ben McDonald

  • Red Sox - Phil Plantier

  • Indians - Sandy Alomar & Steve Olin

  • Tigers - Brian DuBois

  • Brewers - Greg Vaughn

  • Yankees - Kevin Mmahat

  • Blue Jays - Glenallen Hill

  • Angels - Dante Bichette

  • White Sox - Robin Ventura

  • Royals - Kevin Appier

  • Twins - Willie Banks

  • A's - Felix Jose

  • Mariners - Tino Martinez

  • Rangers - Juan Gonzalez

  • Cubs - Kevin Blankenship

  • Expos - Marquis Grissom & Mark Gardner

  • Mets - Julio Machado

  • Phillies - Pat Combs

  • Pirates - Stan Belinda

  • Cardinals - Todd Zeile

  • Braves - Mike Stanton

  • Reds - Joe Oliver

  • Astros - Eric Anthony

  • Dodgers - Ramon Martinez & John Wetteland

  • Padres - Andy Benes

  • Giants - Greg Litton

In short, that's a lot of big names, most of whom didn't pan out.


This wasn't a comprehensive study, but it does illustrate the idea that most prospects are suspects. Most don't pan out.


If a team can get a superstar by trading prospects, the best call is to trade the guys.


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fuster
2022년 6월 01일

perhaps Paul ought to forget about Soto and instead turn to consideration of the acquisition cost for an outfielder coming from an NL East team that has been a major disappointment.


this guy is signed looong term and will cost $27.5M/annum for the next several


he's also a lefty slugger and someone that Paul used to Harp upon

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Paul Semendinger
Paul Semendinger
2022년 6월 02일
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Sometimes you're just wrong.

WAR 2019-22:

Judge 9.3

Harper 9.4

They are very similar players.

Harper was signed in his prime years (late 20's). Judge is going to want big money as he enters into his decline years. That's a huge difference.

Harper will be making millions less per year than what Judge is asking for. Judge already declined $3M more per season.

After 2028, Harper's salary goes down to $23+M per year.

Just basing those numbers on what Judge turned down that's $39M more that Harper will be paid through then end of his contract in 2031. At that time, Harper will be 38.

If Judge gets 10 years, he'll be earning $35M+ in 2033. Judge will also b…


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fuster
2022년 6월 01일

of 5 top prospects you should expect more than 1 to work out, although you can't expect any to be as valuable as Soto has been.


he's been a 5+WAR player despite being a poor defender and 5 WAR is likely to be his minimum value for the next couple of years.


on the other hand, he's going to be so greatly in demand that he's going to be wildly expensive.... in arbitration.


as a free agent, he's going to be wickedly expensive.

a team that pretends that paying $300M to retain Judge would have to pay a buttload more for Juan.... a guy who's basically a DH


and he's just one guy and as likely to become disabled as…


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Robert Malchman
Robert Malchman
2022년 6월 01일
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If I didn't have a longer-term deal past the two arb years, I wouldn't give the Nats a haul of prospects.

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Robert Malchman
Robert Malchman
2022년 6월 01일

I agree that trading a mess of prospects for Soto (if they can sign him to a long-term deal, or at least one to buy out a couple of free-agent years) makes sense.


That said, I'm not sure this listing supports your point. Would you have traded Alomar, Gonzalez, Tino, Ventura and Stanton for Soto? I wouldn't.


I always confuse Kevin Mmahat with Kevin Mahmahboogieshoes.

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