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The Tuesday Discussion: Starting Pitchers

September 10, 2024

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This week we presented the following to our writers:


As we head into the season's final weeks, the Yankees have six starting pitchers.  How would you use them?  (A six-man rotation, a "buddy" system (such as Schmidt to Cortes), make one the closer, or something different...)


Here are their responses:

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Cary Greene - I think a creative approach is in order. On one hand, it would be good to keep each starter's innings consistent at this point in the season. On the other hand, a little extra rest right now might not be a bad thing. So to me the answer is a little bit of creativity could go a long way. 


Changing a starter's role at this point in the season is akin to heresy. Call it the buddy system call it what you want. The right approach is to keep everybody fresh with the ultimate goal of having all handbegins on deck and everyone healthy as soon as the playoffs begin.

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Ethan Semendinger - Out of the six starters that the Yankees have, there are a few that will not be moved from their roles in the rotation: Gerrit Cole, Carlos Rodon, and Marcus Stroman.


Which leaves two spots left in the rotation for the likes of: Clarke Schmidt, Nestor Cortes, and Luis Gil. And each has a 'pro' and a 'con' for being included.


For Clarke Schmidt, the 'pro' is that he only has 65.1 innings on his arm this year. However, this directly related to his 'con', being that he was on the IL from late-May to late-August.


For Nestor Cortes, the 'pro' is that he has experience as a postseason starter. However, his 'con' is that his 2024 season has been very up-and-down with his starting.


For Luis Gil, the 'pro' is that his season has been incredibly amazing. However, his 'con' is that he's never pitched near this amount of innings (so far Gil is at 130.2 innings) in a season before.


If I was in control, I'd keep Schmidt in the rotation and I'd put Cortes and Gil on a starter/reliever plan with the two of them swapping between either position each time their rotation spot gets called. I'd also tell Cortes that he could earn a spot back in the rotation if he starts to put up consistent numbers again.

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Mike Whiteman - I might do a six man rotation once, twice at the very most for the benefit of the returning Gil and Schmidt. For the last couple weeks of the season, I want only the best five starting (and one in the pen) as they battle for the division title. 

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Paul Semendinger - I actually liked the tandem approach they used with Clarke Schmidt and Nestor Cortes. That got them both work, but also gave the weary and ineffective bullpen a rest. I might change some pitchers in this process from week to week (Stroman followed by Gil - or whatever), but it worked and it keeps them all throwing on a regular rotation. I'd keep at it.

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Alexandra
Alexandra
11 de set.

Great read! Very detailed and informative article. URL

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Jeff Korell
Jeff Korell
10 de set.

I would put Nestor Cortes in the bullpen because he has the most experience there. He had been a full time reliever before he "accidently" became a starter. He can start in the event of a double header (rainout make up game), or in the event of an injury or a "late scratch" of the scheduled starter. His best role in the bullpen would be if a starting pitcher obviously "doesn't have it", and the game is "still within reach", Cortes can take over and pitch a lot of innings, and hold things in place so the Yankees offense can take over and overcome that early deficit.


I also like the idea of NO "closer". If Cortes pitched well i…

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Jeff Korell
Jeff Korell
10 de set.
Respondendo a

Alan, I have very fond memories of when the term "closer" didn't exist. Also, the term "setup man" did not exist. Most starters, even if they didn't have their best stuff, and regardless of how many pitches they threw in the game, would COMPLETE as many games as they could, and the starters would only come out if they either "ran out of gas" or in the case of the then "DH-less" National League, if the manager decided to pinch hit for that starting pitcher in a critical part of the game. In that situation, they would bring in what was then called a "short reliever" (NOT a "closer") to finish the game at that point. The "short reliever" w…


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fuster
10 de set.

Stroman should get some starts in September...and without significant improvement, none at all after September


Gil or Cortes might have to go to the pen

with Gil, it's a matter of determining whether his body is holding up under the burden of innings pitched. if convinced he's healthy he's a valuable starter.

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Alan B.
Alan B.
10 de set.

Now, I don't know what the post season schedule looks like in terms of days off, but I'm assuming that every team will need at least 4 starters, and the analytics guys will want 7 relievers, 4+7=11, so currently there are 14 pitchers on the roster. We are getting a 6 man rotation this turn around, but the truth is, not a single starting pitcher needs to be pushed for that extra inning. Barring injury, all 6 will make the postseason roster, and I can't see one of them on the roster like Jordan Montgomery in 2017, who only pitched an inning in those playoffs. Ethan has it right, 3 of the SPs will be Cole, Rodon, & Stroman.…


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Jeff Korell
Jeff Korell
10 de set.
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They would likely start Stroman, then at the very first sign of any trouble in the early innings, have Cortes "piggyback" on Stroman's start the rest of the way.


Of course, if Stroman has one of his games where he is pitching very well, the way he did in Williamsport where he outpitched a very good version of Tarik Skubal, Stroman would remain in the game a lot longer.

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