10,000 Words: Greatest Yankees Pitchers Not in Monument Park

Paul Semendinger
Aug 20
1 min read

by Paul Semendinger

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Here are the Top 10 Yankees Pitchers (by WAR) Who Are Not In Monument Park:

1. Bob Shawkey (43.4 WAR, 6th All-Time as a Yankee)

2. Waite Hoyt (36.3 WAR, 9th All-Time)

3. Mike Mussina (35.1 WAR, 10th All-Time)

4. Herb Pennock (33.9 WAR, 11h All-Time)

5. Jack Chesbro (29.8 WAR, 12th All-Time)

6. Ray Caldwell (28.6 WAR, 14th All-Time)

7. Russ Ford (27.5 WAR, 15th All-Time)

8, 9. Spud Chandler and Dave Righetti (tie) (22.9 WAR, 16th All-Time)

10. Roger Clemens (21.2 WAR, 19th All-Time)

7 Comments

fantasyfb3313

Aug 21

at the very least, this is an extremely interesting discussion. i do appreciate your effort to continually provide interesting Yankee related material!! thank you again

fantasyfb3313

Aug 20

I was not trying to make any point.

is it your belief that all of these pitchers should be in monument park? clearly, Shawkey had the highest WAR. therefore, it makes sense he would be one of, if not the most likely, the top possibilities.

I would have to go and look at the career of all of the players. I DID look at Shawkey before I posted. the stats seem to show a good but not really a great pitcher. I was aware of Shawkey but I absolutely do NOT know his whole story

to me for a player to be included, they need either a worthy career, or a noteworthy singular event or two.

Maris won 2 MVPs…

fantasyfb3313

Aug 21

Replying to

very obviously, I saw all of the CC, Yankee years. in my view, CC is a borderline monument park addition. the team won 1 championship with him. he had 3 good to very good years. after that, his Yankee career was solid but far from dominant

I do not know the entire list of players in the park. who are the other pitchers? Whitey, Guidry, Andy P, Mariano would all be obvious members in my view. what about other pitchers who won 4 trophies with the 90s dynasty teams?

I would have to look again, but on your player list, there are probably multiple players I would be inclined to include. on the pitcher list, as I said, I se…

fantasyfb3313

Aug 20

I am aware of most of the names, yet some of the names I had not even heard until now. that is my way of saying, there would be a lot for me to learn for plenty of the pitchers listed here, but from what I do know and based on the WAR, I do not see any real glaring omissions.

personally, I am a BIG fan of Mussina and Righetti! if they were in, I would not say it is wrong, but I do not think either one is what could be called an obvious mistake for not being included

Paul Semendinger

Aug 20

Replying to

You're actually making my point.

If you bring a fan into Monument Park and say, "Walk around and when you're done, tell me who was better, C.C. Sabathia or Bob Shawkey."

The fan will leave Monument Park and say, "C.C.!" (Once CC is there in Sept...)

Except, Shawkey was a Yankee for more years, won more games, had more WAR, and a better ERA+. Shawkey pitched the Opening Game in Yankee Stadium in 1923.

Shawkey won 20 games for the Yankees four times. He helped pitch the Yankees to the World Series in 1921, 1922, and 1923.

I could go on...

BUT, fans have not heard of him because the Yankees have failed to tell the complete story of their…

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