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Who Should Be the Yankee 3rd and 4th Starters in the 2025 Post-Season?

  • Writer: SSTN Admin
    SSTN Admin
  • Sep 26
  • 2 min read

by Robert Malchman

September 25, 2025

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We’re at the point where a debate about the Yankee post-season rotation after Max Fried and Carlos Rodon is becoming relevant.  Anyone can consider the overall records of Luis Gil, Cam Schlittler and Will Warren, but I don’t think how any of them do against the Orioles or White Sox is going to be of great relevance. 


So I isolated each of their starts against the most plausible post-season opponents: Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Seattle and Toronto.  Here are their totals against those opponents:


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Quite obviously, against the best teams in the AL, Gil has been head and shoulders above his rookie colleagues.  His walk rate and BB/K ratio is unsightly, but he doesn’t give up runs or hits, not like the others have done.  Add in that Gil has post-season experience (even though he performed poorly last year), and making him the No. 3 starter looks like a no-brainer.


That leaves the No. 4 starter up for consideration should New York make it to the ALCS.  Schlittler has the better ERA than Warren, but the slightly worse WHIP.  Their K rates are remarkably similar.  So I’d be tempted to decide based on who the opponent is.  For example, Schlittler didn’t face Boston, but the Red Sox raked against Warren in his 3 starts against them: 14.1 IP, 15 ER, an ERA over 9.00, so Schlittler is my Game 4 guy there.  Likewise, Schlittler didn’t face Cleveland, but Warren was effective, 2 ER in 5 IP.  The question I have is whether showing the Guardians a new face would be better or worse than having the guy who handled them once before.  


Against Seattle, Warren was outstanding, 2 R, 0 ER, 10.2 IP.  Schlittler’s 3 ER, 5.1 IP doesn’t recommend him in this match-up.


Both faced Houston and put up similar numbers, 5 IP, 2 ER each.  Likewise, Warren and Schlittler were both effective against Detroit, the former 6.0 IP, 2 ER; the latter 6.0 IP, 1 ER. 


For these opponents, probably the better question is who would be more effective coming out of the bullpen?  I could see planning to piggy-back them with each going through the order about twice.


Toronto is the biggest potential problem.  Warren got stomped in his one start, 8 ER in 4.0 IP.  Schlitter was so-so in one start (5 IP, 2 ER) and awful earlier this month (1.2 IP, 4 ER).  If Ryan Yarbrough is truly healthy and his last appearance just an aberration, I’d be sorely tempted to start him in a Game 4 against the Jays (who have a very slight OPS platoon disadvantage against lefties).  After Schlittler’s September 5 debacle against Toronto, Yarbrough restored some order with 5.1IP of one-run ball.  But the hitters couldn’t do anything against Kevin Gausman, and additional runs allowed by Leiter and Doval sealed their fate.


My big hope, of course, is that Toronto blows the Division, and the Yankees get the bye. 


Next to that, I hope either the Yankees get the Jays in the five-game ALDS (i.e., no No. 4 starter), or that someone else knocks them out before the ALCS.  But for the first two post-season series, my No. 3 guy is Luis Gil.


10 Comments


Mike Whiteman
Sep 27

Great article Prof!

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Patrick Kissane
Patrick Kissane
Sep 26

Great article! The amazing thing is, no matter who they choose, all three are basically rookies. I know Gil pitched last year, but he's missed a lot of time.

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Robert Malchman
Robert Malchman
Sep 27
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Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.

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Alan B.
Alan B.
Sep 26

Schlittler is Game 3, and if Game 4 is at home, it's Warren. If the Yankees face Boston, I'm thinking hard about leaving Warren off the roster, and it is Toronto, Schlittler is in the pen only. Problem is, I have my doubts that Gil is even 75% healthy. There is more to this 'I'm slowing my FB to get strikes' that we've been hearing after his last couple of starts.

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Alan B.
Alan B.
Sep 27
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When Gil has to throw his FB much slower to get it to go in the strike zone, that tells me something is wrong with him physically. It's one thing you can get away with it during the regular season, you can't get away with that in the playoffs. unless the Yankees are playing the Twins, who didn't qualify.

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yankeerudy
Sep 26

I do like the idea of backing up the (eventually) selected #4 with the other one, giving us Schlittler/Warren or Warren/Schlittler. It should save the bullpen from getting overtaxed.

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fuster
Sep 26

good idea. well considered.


a choice must be made


even though there's a little too little MLB performance data available for Schlittler and there's the obvious problem of the unevenness of rookie's results.

it's not easy to know whether his rotten result against Toronto is of great significance

or not.

but it does point to the dicy nature of having Cam pitch in an elimination game in this post-season.


I think that Schlittler is going to be of greater value than Gil for next season.

but, of course, next season aint this post-season


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